Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-12
Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Wed, 20 June 2018 14:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-12
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Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote: > > > I had always seen as subscribed-notifications as a control plane improvement to RFC-5277. > > Let hope so ;) > > > > > Explicitly excluding XSD, SYSLOG, vendor structures, etc. seems unnecessary. > > XSD is another DML, maybe you meant XML? > > SYSLOG is a protocol, I think you mean to say that folks might encapsulate > syslog messages inside a <notification> element. This is fine, I suggest > defining a notification called something like "syslog-message" that is > essentially a leaf of type "string". > > Vendor structures are like Syslog, they can be even be binary if the leaf > is of type "binary". > > I'm not trying to exclude anything, what gets excluded? I agree with Kent. 5277 was pre-YANG, so it could not be tied to the "notification" message. Even 5277 could not transport any data - it had to be encoded in XML. This new draft is more flexible since it can be used with XML and JSON (and other encodings) - *because* it transports YANG notifications. /martin > > I can ping a few people who have legacy implementations which might > > be closer to this than I. Narrowing the scope in this way should > > be broadly discussed. > > But is it narrowing the scope any? (see above) > > > > > > > It would be helpful to get some comments on draft-ietf-netconf- > > > > notification-messages. > > > > This draft address improvements to the opaque data blobs. > > > > > > Perhaps tease us with a little more detail? ;) > > > > Pretty much all the common headers in Section 3 and the message > > bundling in Section 4 are both improvements which are relevant > > to this thread. Tianran likely will have some new headers he > > wants added as part of the multi-line card work. > > I don't see the relation to opaque data here. The "notification-contents" > description says "Encapsulates objects following YANG's notification-stmt > grammar of RFC-7950 section 14." That doesn't sound like it would be > very opaque. > > > Kent > > > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf >
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Andy Bierman
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Alexander Clemm
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Kent Watsen
- [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subscrib… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [Netconf] comments on draft-ietf-netconf-subs… Eric Voit (evoit)