Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 18 January 2018 17:32 UTC

Return-Path: <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
X-Original-To: netmod@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netmod@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F27129516 for <netmod@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:32:02 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.91
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BtWp9zq7RgbV for <netmod@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:32:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from atlas5.jacobs-university.de (atlas5.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1CB2128961 for <netmod@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:31:58 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (demetrius5.irc-it.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) by atlas5.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D106B7; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:57 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de
Received: from atlas5.jacobs-university.de ([10.70.0.217]) by localhost (demetrius5.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id WnxK28o9dTQh; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:55 +0100 (CET)
Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hermes.jacobs-university.de", Issuer "Jacobs University CA - G01" (verified OK)) by atlas5.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:57 +0100 (CET)
Received: from localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.49]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E8920147; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:57 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de
Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aedCrTi23fkv; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:56 +0100 (CET)
Received: from elstar.local (unknown [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702A920144; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:56 +0100 (CET)
Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D9ABE421FF23; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:53 +0100 (CET)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 18:31:53 +0100
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Cc: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, netmod@ietf.org
Message-ID: <20180118173153.cd5okqs3rqj6s46r@elstar.local>
Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
Mail-Followup-To: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, netmod@ietf.org
References: <16104ca0948.27d3.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <20180117.171817.479473055872371790.mbj@tail-f.com> <5d8b65cf-e75e-e11e-a41a-722697ec3af8@labn.net> <20180118.085648.2091191419931632376.mbj@tail-f.com> <16109590f18.27d3.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <20180118133920.aerpan7jdbtre3f3@elstar.local> <1e37fe97-d434-2ada-22e4-d109ad872a5d@bogus.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <1e37fe97-d434-2ada-22e4-d109ad872a5d@bogus.com>
User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171215
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/PO9ctE3fKScifK0Rne4OBbSaqbI>
Subject: Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library
X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: NETMOD WG list <netmod.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netmod>, <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netmod/>
List-Post: <mailto:netmod@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod>, <mailto:netmod-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:32:02 -0000

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 08:25:35AM -0800, joel jaeggli wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I apply a different discount rate on the future particularly
> when timelines are involved. e.g. 3 months turns into a year and half
> pretty quickly.

I provided a reasoning why 3 months may be feasible, I doubled it
since its the IETF. You may apply the factor 6. But note that the last
piece of NMDA (the YANG library) is work reasonably well understood
with people dedicated to finish the last piece (obviously my very
biased view).

> I think it's more a question of can we live with publishing the module
> now as is? Or can  we not live with publishing it now?

The question is what we expect implementors to do and how we think
about achieving interoperability by publishing two significantly
different versions instead of one.

/js

-- 
Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>