Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft
Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Tue, 14 February 2023 00:05 UTC
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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Werner Koch writes: > >> Actually rfc6637 allows the specification of curves using arbitrary OIDs. >> FWIW: > > Yup, and the original from 2013 was: > > -- Snip -- > >> For completeness, Crypto++ has a factory-like method that serves curves. The >> curves are sorted by OID in the function, so Crypto++ would need an OID for >> ed25519. > > { 1 3 6 1 4 1 3029 1 5 1 } ed209^H^H5519 > > You have been OIDed. Go forth and encrypt. > > -- Snip -- > > I picked a bit of random unused space, which in any case was for Ed25519 and > not Curve25519, because there was nothing else available at the time and > people needed something to play with. It was never intended to be a > permanent, standards-track value, it was something I made up (but from a space > where it was guaranteed not to clash with anything) to help out folks who > needed an OID. Until someone pointed me at the RFC I had no idea it was still > in use. > > We now have standard OIDs for this, they're in RFC 8410. If there are > implementations out there that use the made-up value then the RFC can include > a note to say that for historical purposes implementations may encounter keys > with the ... 1 5 1 OID, but new keys should use the standard OID. > > Peter. Thanks for the clarification Peter. I think we should use the new OIDs and mention the old OIDs in the draft for backwards compatibility. Paul
- [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Werner Koch
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Justus Winter
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Justus Winter
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Peter Gutmann
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Huigens
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Wiktor Kwapisiewicz
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Aron Wussler
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Schaub
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Heiko Schäfer
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft David Runge
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Jonathan McDowell
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft Justus Winter