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Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft

Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> Thu, 09 February 2023 12:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [openpgp] Weird OIDs in the 4880bis draft
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Hi,

On Thu,  9 Feb 2023 11:00, Peter Gutmann said:
> Someone has just pointed out to me that the 4880bis drafts uses some weird
> nonstandard OIDs for the 25519 algorithms, including private-enterprise

Might be non-standard these days but they date back to about summer 2014
when we added ed25519 to GnuPG.  This predates rfc8410 by at 3 years.

IIRC, I added the one for ed25519 to the GNU arc; see
https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/OID-Allocations.html

The one for Curve25519 is from your own arc - if that is not a standard,
what else should make up a standard ;-)

The OIDs are in widespread use for many years and we can't replace them
anymore.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


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