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From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com>
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Thread-Topic: IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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Subject: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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RATS participants,

There are 2 IPR statements related to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-architecture:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/4106/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5042/

For IPR  IETF procedures see  https://www.ietf.org/standards/ipr/ and RFC 8179.  As neither the chairs
nor anyone else in the IETF is considered competent to evaluate such claims or the validity of any patents,
we suggest avoiding bringing these up.  However,  IPR statement 5042 has
“Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implementers with Possible Royalty/Fee”
And IPR statement 4106 “offer FRAND royalty-bearing licenses for such activities”.  These licensing
Terms may make progress on the draft problematic to some implementers, especially non-commercial ones.

So this message is to start a discussion on how the RATS working group would like to handle these disclosures.
The WG can decide to continue to move forward to publication but discussion is warranted.

Best,  Nancy
(on behalf of the RATs chairs)

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