Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> Fri, 19 November 2021 17:48 UTC

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From: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>
To: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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Hi Kathleen,

I wonder how anyone can make a judgment about the IPR situation when we do not have the complete information about it.
This information needs to be available first before we can proceed.

I therefore suggest to wait until we have this information so that our legal department can have a look.

Ciao
Hannes

From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Kathleen Moriarty
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:37 PM
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

Greetings!

We'll end last call for comments on the IPR submitted Friday of next week, providing a little more than 2 weeks due to the IETF meeting.

Best regards,
Kathleen

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 8:21 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr%2Bietf@sandelman.ca>> wrote:

Nancy Cam-Winget \(ncamwing\) <ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
    > As you note, the shepherd writeup has to include discussion (and
    > conclusion) of the IPR disclosure, NOT of the claims as we are not
    > experts to evaluate them or the validity of any patents.

okay.

In the meantime, could the chairs please request area reviews.
(Last Call is not necessary, nor do we want to wait that long)
The DT lets you ask. Just click "Request Reviews" button.

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