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"Smith, Ned" <ned.smith@intel.com> Wed, 08 December 2021 22:35 UTC

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From: "Smith, Ned" <ned.smith@intel.com>
To: Thomas Hardjono <hardjono@mit.edu>, Dave Thaler <dthaler=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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The patent application is available to the public (for those who are able to read it) here: (https://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&s1=20210314365.PGNR.) 
or here (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210314365A1/)
-Ned



On 12/8/21, 1:58 PM, "RATS on behalf of Thomas Hardjono" <rats-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of hardjono@mit.edu> wrote:


    +1  Agree with Dave.  

    Its about time we have a stable set of terminologies & concepts contained in an RFC that we can point to.



    --thomas



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    From: RATS [rats-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Dave Thaler [dthaler=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 1:58 PM
    To: Michael Richardson; Kathleen Moriarty; Eric Voit (evoit); Hannes Tschofenig; rats@ietf.org
    Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

    My personal opinion is that publication should proceed, especially
    since the architecture document is just Informational.

    Dave

    -----Original Message-----
    From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
    Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:46 AM
    To: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>; Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>; Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@arm.com>; rats@ietf.org
    Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture


    Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
        > I wouldn’t go by that date as I did a call for IPR and then had to
        > wait. That might have been the trigger, not sure.

        > Hannes, can your lawyers look at what’s been provided so far?

    The IPR disclosures on the IETF web site are almost always completely useless.  This one included in my opinion.

    Worse, a typo in the markup of the previous version means that the 3.1 heading actually didn't render.  So it's not clear what the IPR claim refers to.

    At best the IPR declaration tells us what patent application to look at, and we don't even know if the PTO will even accept all the claims.

    --
    Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
               Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide




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