Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

[Daniel Migault <[e-mail]>]

I checked internally and we would like the document be moved forward.
Yours,
Daniel

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:04 PM Guy Fedorkow <gfedorkow=
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> Of course we’re uncomfortable about an unquantifiable IPR risk, but I
> agree with Ira, we should move forward with the document as-is.
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>   /guy
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> *From:* RATS <[e-mail]> *On Behalf Of * Ira McDonald
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> I agree w/ Dave Thaler - publish this Informational RATS Architecture as
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> There has already been far too long a delay.
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> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:59 PM Dave Thaler <dthaler=
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> My personal opinion is that publication should proceed, especially
> since the architecture document is just Informational.
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> Dave
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> From: RATS <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 7:46 AM
> To: Kathleen Moriarty <[e-mail]>; Eric Voit
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> Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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> Kathleen Moriarty <[e-mail]> wrote:
>     > I wouldn’t go by that date as I did a call for IPR and then had to
>     > wait. That might have been the trigger, not sure.
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>     > Hannes, can your lawyers look at what’s been provided so far?
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> The IPR disclosures on the IETF web site are almost always completely
> useless.  This one included in my opinion.
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> Worse, a typo in the markup of the previous version means that the 3.1
> heading actually didn't render.  So it's not clear what the IPR claim
> refers to.
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> At best the IPR declaration tells us what patent application to look at,
> and we don't even know if the PTO will even accept all the claims.
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