Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

[Henk Birkholz <[e-mail]>]

Thank you Nancy,

we are happy to just update the revision, if the tracker is not 
configured to track expired documents.

I think the topic of discussion you highlighted might need more time 
than the currently requested 10 min. The Shepard's write-up reflects the 
strong consensus in the WG to move this memo forward as a WG item in (9).

But there are also the open items (7), (8), and (11).

(11) seems just like legwork to me. (7) and (8) are related to the topic 
you raised here. I'll be more than happy to progress and I am cautiously 
optimistic that we are mostly on the same page here. Please let us 
identify a complete list of open tasks, assign them in the session, and 
just get them done.

Viele Grüße,

Henk

On 06.11.21 03:57, Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) wrote:
> RATS participants,
> 
> There are 2 IPR statements related to 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-architecture 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-architecture>:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/4106/ 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/4106/>
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5042/ 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5042/>
> 
> For IPR  IETF procedures see https://www.ietf.org/standards/ipr/ 
> <https://www.ietf.org/standards/ipr/> and RFC 8179. As neither the chairs
> 
> nor anyone else in the IETF is considered competent to evaluate such 
> claims or the validity of any patents,
> 
> we suggest avoiding bringing these up.  However, IPR statement 5042 has
> 
> “Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implementers with 
> Possible Royalty/Fee”
> 
> And IPR statement 4106 “offer FRAND royalty-bearing licenses for such 
> activities”. These licensing
> 
> Terms may make progress on the draft problematic to some implementers, 
> especially non-commercial ones.
> 
> So this message is to start a discussion on how the RATS working group 
> would like to handle these disclosures.
> 
> The WG can decide to continue to move forward to publication but 
> discussion is warranted.
> 
> Best,  Nancy
> 
> (on behalf of the RATs chairs)
> 
> 
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