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Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 08 November 2021 11:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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Nancy Cam-Winget \(ncamwing\) <ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
    > And IPR statement 4106 “offer FRAND royalty-bearing licenses for such
    > activities”.  These licensing

BTW: it seems that this is secondary.  The first paragraph of the offer seems
to say that if it's part of an IETF specification, that it will not be
enforced.   So it's essentially RF for IETF activities, FRAND otherwise.

(FRAND is not open source compatible, while RF is)


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