Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

[Guy Fedorkow <[e-mail]>]

Of course we're uncomfortable about an unquantifiable IPR risk, but I agree with Ira, we should move forward with the document as-is.
  /guy




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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture

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Hi,

I agree w/ Dave Thaler - publish this Informational RATS Architecture as is.

There has already been far too long a delay.

Cheers,
- Ira

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On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:59 PM Dave Thaler <dthaler=[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
My personal opinion is that publication should proceed, especially
since the architecture document is just Informational.

Dave

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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR statements about draft-ietf-rats-architecture


Kathleen Moriarty <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
    > I wouldn't go by that date as I did a call for IPR and then had to
    > wait. That might have been the trigger, not sure.

    > Hannes, can your lawyers look at what's been provided so far?

The IPR disclosures on the IETF web site are almost always completely useless.  This one included in my opinion.

Worse, a typo in the markup of the previous version means that the 3.1 heading actually didn't render.  So it's not clear what the IPR claim refers to.

At best the IPR declaration tells us what patent application to look at, and we don't even know if the PTO will even accept all the claims.

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