Re: [saag] Discuss at SAAG? was Re: nation state crypto profiles - draft-jenkins-cnsa-cmc-profile-00

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 03 October 2018 13:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [saag] Discuss at SAAG? was Re: nation state crypto profiles - draft-jenkins-cnsa-cmc-profile-00
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Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
    > They still need to ask IANA for an assignment, and IANA would refer it
    > to the designated experts. Those designated experts (Rich, Nick, and I
    > for TLS) can enforce that the document is available in English. In

Why would you insist on this?
If the community wanted Specification Required, wouldn't we have said that,
rather than Expert Review?

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