Re: [saag] Discuss at SAAG? was Re: nation state crypto profiles - draft-jenkins-cnsa-cmc-profile-00

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [saag] Discuss at SAAG? was Re: nation state crypto profiles - draft-jenkins-cnsa-cmc-profile-00
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Ø  Perhaps the most appropriate thing would be to characterize the "N" marking as "it is not a 'Recommended code point'".

Yes.  I’d prefer “-“ instead of “N” but NBD.