Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Thu, 25 May 2006 08:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Techspec] RFC Author Count and IPR
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Bob Braden wrote:
>   *> 
>   *> I am concerned that the current RFC Editor practice that limits the 
>   *> number of authors is in conflict with the IETF IPR policies.  The RFC 
>   *> Editor currently limits the author count to five people.  Recent IPR 
>   *> WG discussions make it clear to me that authors retain significant copyright.
>
>
> Note that the number 5 is not magic here.  When the phenomenon of
> balooning lists of authors (say, one or more from every telecom vendor
> you ever heard of) was first noticed, there was a discussion on the
> IETF list.  The community consensus was that author list inflation was
> "un-IETF".  I don't recall the details (there may have been a last call
> from the IESG, but I am not sure), but it was left to the RFC Editor to
> formulate the precise guideline.
The Last Call on draft-rfc-editor-author-lists was issued on May 20, 
2002, and the IESG approved that document on August 27, 2002, according 
to the tracker:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=8778&rfc_flag=0

On Jan 3, 2005, it was marked "dead" based on the fact that the text had 
been incorporated into the 2223bis draft.
So it's been almost 4 years since IETF consensus was declared for this 
policy.

                               Harald


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