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Subject: Re: [Terminology] [Gendispatch] WG Review: Effective Terminology in IETF Documents (term)
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Stephen,

"RFC 10984 on inclusive terminology obsoletes RFC 9184 on inclusionary terminology. This new product of the TERMINATOR (formerly TERM) workgroup specifically adds the following terms, which are now discouraged from use:

exclusive (and variants)
fnord (not fjord! fjord is fine! [At this time.])
huxleyan (and variants)
I'll be blocked
orwellian (and variants)
poison attack
timestamp crank..." etc.

curation for RFCs is not strictly set in stone, as you say. But with RFCs, the published list curation and modification process is rather more drawn out, carefully thought out, and tedious, which is arguably a good thing, at least until you're in the middle of arguing the next round of changes to be published. It's rather like trying to engrave one's own headstone. with a spoon.

If you start with any list, anyhow, that list will only grow.

can someone please tell the RFC Ed to reserve RFC 9184 for TERM...

Lloyd Wood
lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk

> On 25 Apr 2021, at 11:02, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> 
>> On 25/04/2021 01:07, Lloyd W wrote:
>> Stephen,
>> an informational RFC including 'a few examples of terms' in itself
>> constitutes a curated list, set in stone.
> 
> I don't agree. Set-in-stone != curated. E.g., I have
> no problem if we emit an RFC that recommends that
> blocklist is currently considered better than blacklist
> in almost all cases.

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