Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt (12)
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 16 March 2020 12:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt (12)
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 2:19 AM Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote: > Catching-up just on the following: We could strongly agree that > ossification is an impediment about which there has been a general > growing awareness. I do not mind changing the words here at all: > This was intended as an example of my concerns, not the totality of them. -Ekr > On 13/03/2020 16:20, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > In the first passage, the use "in response to perceptions" creates > > the impression that ossification is just some people's opinion, > > whereas it seems to me that it is a commonly understood fact of > > > e.g.: > > OLD: > > One motive to encrypt transport headers is in response to > perceptions that the network has become ossified, since traffic > inspecting middleboxes prevent new protocols and mechanisms from > being deployed. > > NEW: > > One motive to encrypt transport headers is in response to > growing awareness of the implications of network ossification > from traffic > inspecting middleboxes that prevent new protocols and mechanisms > from > being deployed. > > ... or make a suggestion? > > Gorry > >
- [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… David Schinazi
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Martin Duke
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Joe Touch
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Colin Perkins
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Martin Duke
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Martin Duke
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Tom Herbert
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Tom Herbert
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Tom Herbert
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Tom Herbert
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Tom Herbert
- Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-trans… Black, David