Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt (12)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 16 March 2020 12:54 UTC

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 05:53:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New Version of draft-ietf-tsvwg-transport-encrypt (12)
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 2:19 AM Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Catching-up just on the following: We could strongly agree that
> ossification is an impediment about which there has been a general
> growing awareness. I do not mind changing the words here at all:
>

This was intended as an example of my concerns, not the totality of them.

-Ekr


> On 13/03/2020 16:20, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > In the first passage, the use "in response to perceptions" creates
> > the impression that ossification is just some people's opinion,
> > whereas it seems to me that it is a commonly understood fact of
>
>
> e.g.:
>
> OLD:
>
>        One motive to encrypt transport headers is in response to
>        perceptions that the network has become ossified, since traffic
>        inspecting middleboxes prevent new protocols and mechanisms from
>        being deployed.
>
> NEW:
>
>        One motive to encrypt transport headers is in response to
>        growing awareness of the implications of network ossification
> from traffic
>        inspecting middleboxes that prevent new protocols and mechanisms
> from
>        being deployed.
>
> ... or make a suggestion?
>
> Gorry
>
>