Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th November2010
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Wed, 03 November 2010 12:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th November2010
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Hi Tom, Apparently your comment from January about the mix of terms was missed and not addressed. If I understand the English terms correctly, what we are describing that IANA should do is Allocation, i.e. set aside identifiers for particular usages. We are not giving over the number space to the ones that request, thus Assignment would be wrong? I think we can mostly eliminate one of the terms assignment and allocation. I think we will have more difficult to get rid of registration. My personal thinking on this is at least the following relationship between the terms: A Registrant performs a Registration (process or request) so that IANA can perform an Allocation of a service name and possibly ports. I think we will run into issues with some of our references that might have had similar confusion between allocation and assignment. But from my perspective, I think this is a valid comment and should be addressed. Cheers Magnus t.petch skrev 2010-11-03 10:09: > I do not support publication. > > I commented earlier that > > "I have a problem with this I-D in that it would appear to make no > distinction between allocation and assignment, and would seem to > include registration in the mix as well, at least at times, while hinting that > whatever these may be, ownership is something else. In the limited context of > transport > identifiers, this may not cause confusion but in closely allied registries, > allocation and assignment are fundamentally different processes and those who > interchange the two are confused and cause confusion." > > and I still regard that as a show stopper. > > Tom Petch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gorry Fairhurst" <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> > To: "tsvwg list" <tsvwg@ietf.org> > Cc: <tsvwg-chairs@tools.ietf.org> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:59 AM > Subject: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th > November2010 > > >> This email announces the beginning of a working group last call for >> draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08, "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority >> (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport >> Protocol Port Number Registry". This document is now thought to be ready >> to proceed to be published as a BCP. Please send any comments to the >> TSVWG list. >> >> The draft is available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 >> >> The document will be forwarded in parallel to the Apps Area for review. >> >> The last call will run for FOUR weeks, ending Friday, 26th November 2010 >> (this LC period will cover an IETF meeting). >> >> Emails saying "I support" or "I don't support" publication are also most >> helpful in judging the WG consensus. >> >> James and Gorry >> (TSVWG Chairs) >> >> >> >> > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… t.petch
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… t.petch
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-p… t.petch
- WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-source-que… Gorry Fairhurst
- WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-c… Gorry Fairhurst
- Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… John Leslie
- RE: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… philip.eardley
- Re: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… Bob Briscoe
- Re: Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-… John Leslie
- Re: [tsvwg] Note: WGLC Announcement for draft-iet… Manner Jukka
- [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sc… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Black, David
- [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sc… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Yoshifumi Nishida
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Becke, Martin
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Becke, Martin
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Thomas Dreibholz
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Welzl
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Irene Rüngeler
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Anna Brunstrom
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Michael Tuexen
- [tsvwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immed… gorry
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-sack-i… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Randy Stewart
- Re: [tsvwg] WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvw… Yoshifumi Nishida