Re: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th November2010

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Wed, 03 November 2010 12:46 UTC

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Hi Tom,

Apparently your comment from January about the mix of terms was missed
and not addressed.

If I understand the English terms correctly, what we are describing that
IANA should do is Allocation, i.e. set aside identifiers for particular
usages. We are not giving over the number space to the ones that
request, thus Assignment would be wrong?

I think we can mostly eliminate one of the terms assignment and
allocation. I think we will have more difficult to get rid of
registration. My personal thinking on this is at least the following
relationship between the terms: A Registrant performs a Registration
(process or request) so that IANA can perform an Allocation of a service
name and possibly ports.

I think we will run into issues with some of our references that might
have had similar confusion between allocation and assignment.

But from my perspective, I think this is a valid comment and should be
addressed.

Cheers

Magnus

t.petch skrev 2010-11-03 10:09:
> I do not support publication.
> 
> I commented earlier that
> 
> "I have a problem with this I-D in that it would appear to make no
> distinction between allocation and assignment, and would seem to
> include registration in the mix as well, at least at times, while hinting that
> whatever these may be, ownership is something else. In the limited context of
> transport
> identifiers, this may not cause confusion but in closely allied registries,
> allocation and assignment are fundamentally different processes and those who
> interchange the two are confused and cause confusion."
> 
> and I still regard that as a show stopper.
> 
> Tom Petch
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gorry Fairhurst" <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
> To: "tsvwg list" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
> Cc: <tsvwg-chairs@tools.ietf.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:59 AM
> Subject: WGLC Announcement for draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08 - 26th
> November2010
> 
> 
>> This email announces the beginning of a working group last call for
>> draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08, "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
>> (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport
>> Protocol Port Number Registry". This document is now thought to be ready
>> to proceed to be published as a BCP. Please send any comments to the
>> TSVWG list.
>>
>> The draft is available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-08
>>
>> The document will be forwarded in parallel to the Apps Area for review.
>>
>> The last call will run for FOUR weeks, ending Friday, 26th November 2010
>> (this LC period will cover an IETF meeting).
>>
>> Emails saying "I support" or "I don't support" publication are also most
>> helpful in judging the WG consensus.
>>
>> James and Gorry
>> (TSVWG Chairs)
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


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