Re: [Txauth] Name criteria
Hankins Parichabutr <hankins.parichabutr@gmail.com> Tue, 28 April 2020 19:43 UTC
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@Amanjeev beat me to this... I'm also wondering whether "intent" and/or "delegation" are useful to the naming: + Intent-based + Intentional authorization + Intentional delegation Regards, Hankins Parichabutr . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:29 PM <txauth-request@ietf.org> wrote: > Send Txauth mailing list submissions to > txauth@ietf.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > txauth-request@ietf.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > txauth-owner@ietf.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Txauth digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Name criteria (Amanjeev Sethi) > 2. Re: Name criteria (Daniel Fett) > 3. Re: Name criteria (Dick Hardt) > 4. Re: Name criteria (Justin Richer) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com> > To: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>, Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> > Cc: txauth@ietf.org > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:58:00 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria > Does no one think that "intent driven" can be used for creating a name? > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: > > Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious which > languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is impractical. > A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than language specific. > For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very different than a fag in > the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man). > ᐧ > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:09 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> wrote: > > Am 28.04.20 um 19:04 schrieb Dick Hardt: > > Revised criteria: > > Required: > > 1. No confusion with another protocol, major software project, or > IETF/IRTF WG name > 2. no existing registered trademarks in related classes > 3. Less than 1M results in Google > 4. Descriptive of protocol (this criteria is subjective) > > Desirable: > > 1. Straightforward to pronounce > 2. Easy to spell > 3. Easy to read > 4. Shortish > > 5. Not a negatively connotated word in another language > > -Daniel > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> > To: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> > Cc: txauth@ietf.org > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:01:26 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria > Am 28.04.20 um 19:54 schrieb Dick Hardt: > > Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious which > languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is impractical. > A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than language specific. > For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very different than a fag in > the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man). > > If it is in the Urban Dictionary, it is probably a bad choice ;-) > > No, seriously, I guess we can just google for "<x> definition", "<x> > translation" and see what comes up. > > -Daniel > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> > To: Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> > Cc: txauth@ietf.org > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:11:30 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria > But which languages are we checking? There are alot in the world. The > phonetics of the name could be offensive -- ie it could be an offensive > word when said in China or Japan. I don't know how to use google to > search phonetics. > ᐧ > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:01 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> wrote: > >> Am 28.04.20 um 19:54 schrieb Dick Hardt: >> >> Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious >> which languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is >> impractical. A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than >> language specific.. For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very >> different than a fag in the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man). >> >> If it is in the Urban Dictionary, it is probably a bad choice ;-) >> >> No, seriously, I guess we can just google for "<x> definition", "<x> >> translation" and see what comes up. >> >> -Daniel >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> > To: Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com> > Cc: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>, Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de>, > txauth@ietf.org > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:28:48 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria > I think that both “intent driven” and “intent registration” are good > starting points, as that’s one of several key aspects to this proposed > solution space. The flexibility of the interaction (and non-reliance on web > browsers for it) is another important aspect. > > So interactive intent of some flavor might be an inspiration. > > — Justin > > On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com> wrote: > > Does no one think that "intent driven" can be used for creating a name? > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: > > Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious which > languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is impractical. > A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than language specific. > For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very different than a fag in > the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man). > ᐧ > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:09 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> wrote: > > Am 28.04.20 um 19:04 schrieb Dick Hardt: > > Revised criteria: > > Required: > > 1. No confusion with another protocol, major software project, or > IETF/IRTF WG name > 2. no existing registered trademarks in related classes > 3. Less than 1M results in Google > 4. Descriptive of protocol (this criteria is subjective) > > Desirable: > > 1. Straightforward to pronounce > 2. Easy to spell > 3. Easy to read > 4. Shortish > > 5. Not a negatively connotated word in another language > > -Daniel > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > > > -- > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth > > > Txauth mailing list > Txauth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >
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