Re: [Txauth] Name criteria

Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> Tue, 28 April 2020 18:28 UTC

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I think that both “intent driven” and “intent registration” are good starting points, as that’s one of several key aspects to this proposed solution space. The flexibility of the interaction (and non-reliance on web browsers for it) is another important aspect.

So interactive intent of some flavor might be an inspiration.

 — Justin

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com> wrote:
> 
> Does no one think that "intent driven" can be used for creating a name?
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>> Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious which languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is impractical. A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than language specific. For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very different than a fag in the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man).
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>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:09 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de <mailto:fett@danielfett.de>> wrote:
>> Am 28.04.20 um 19:04 schrieb Dick Hardt:
>>> Revised criteria:
>>> 
>>> Required:
>>> No confusion with another protocol, major software project, or IETF/IRTF WG name
>>> no existing registered trademarks in related classes
>>> Less than 1M results in Google
>>> Descriptive of protocol (this criteria is subjective)
>>> Desirable:
>>> Straightforward to pronounce
>>> Easy to spell 
>>> Easy to read
>>> Shortish
>> 5. Not a negatively connotated word in another language
>> 
>> -Daniel
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