Re: [Txauth] Name criteria

Any other feedback on the criteria?

I'll start a separate thread for brainstorming names
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:44 PM Hankins Parichabutr <
hankins.parichabutr@gmail.com> wrote:

> @Amanjeev beat me to this...
>
> I'm also wondering whether "intent" and/or "delegation" are useful to the
> naming:
> + Intent-based
> + Intentional authorization
> + Intentional delegation
>
> Regards,
> Hankins Parichabutr
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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>>    1. Re: Name criteria (Amanjeev Sethi)
>>    2. Re: Name criteria (Daniel Fett)
>>    3. Re: Name criteria (Dick Hardt)
>>    4. Re: Name criteria (Justin Richer)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com>
>> To: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>, Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de>
>> Cc: txauth@ietf.org
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:58:00 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria
>> Does no one think that "intent driven" can be used for creating a name?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>
>> Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious
>> which languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is
>> impractical. A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than
>> language specific. For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very
>> different than a fag in the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man).
>> ᐧ
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>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:09 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> wrote:
>>
>> Am 28.04..20 um 19:04 schrieb Dick Hardt:
>>
>> Revised criteria:
>>
>> Required:
>>
>>    1. No confusion with another protocol, major software project, or
>>    IETF/IRTF WG name
>>    2. no existing registered trademarks in related classes
>>    3. Less than 1M results in Google
>>    4. Descriptive of protocol (this criteria is subjective)
>>
>> Desirable:
>>
>>    1. Straightforward to pronounce
>>    2. Easy to spell
>>    3. Easy to read
>>    4. Shortish
>>
>> 5. Not a negatively connotated word in another language
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de>
>> To: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
>> Cc: txauth@ietf.org
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:01:26 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria
>> Am 28.04.20 um 19:54 schrieb Dick Hardt:
>>
>> Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious
>> which languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is
>> impractical. A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than
>> language specific.. For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very
>> different than a fag in the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man).
>>
>> If it is in the Urban Dictionary, it is probably a bad choice ;-)
>>
>> No, seriously, I guess we can just google for "<x> definition", "<x>
>> translation" and see what comes up.
>>
>> -Daniel
>>
>>
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
>> To: Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de>
>> Cc: txauth@ietf.org
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:11:30 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria
>> But which languages are we checking? There are alot in the world. The
>> phonetics of the name could be offensive -- ie it could be an offensive
>> word when said in China or Japan. I don't know how to use google to
>> search phonetics.
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:01 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 28.04.20 um 19:54 schrieb Dick Hardt:
>>>
>>> Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious
>>> which languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is
>>> impractical. A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than
>>> language specific... For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very
>>> different than a fag in the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man).
>>>
>>> If it is in the Urban Dictionary, it is probably a bad choice ;-)
>>>
>>> No, seriously, I guess we can just google for "<x> definition", "<x>
>>> translation" and see what comes up.
>>>
>>> -Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
>> To: Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com>
>> Cc: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>, Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de>,
>> txauth@ietf.org
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:28:48 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Txauth] Name criteria
>> I think that both “intent driven” and “intent registration” are good
>> starting points, as that’s one of several key aspects to this proposed
>> solution space. The flexibility of the interaction (and non-reliance on web
>> browsers for it) is another important aspect.
>>
>> So interactive intent of some flavor might be an inspiration.
>>
>>  — Justin
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Amanjeev Sethi <aj@amanjeev.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does no one think that "intent driven" can be used for creating a name?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>
>> Daniel: I'm in favor of the intent of your suggestion -- but curious
>> which languages we would test that in. Doing it for all languages is
>> impractical.. A negative connotation may also be a locale rather than
>> language specific. For example, a fag in the UK (a cigarette) is very
>> different than a fag in the US/Canada (offensive term for a homosexual man).
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:09 AM Daniel Fett <fett@danielfett.de> wrote:
>>
>> Am 28.04.20 um 19:04 schrieb Dick Hardt:
>>
>> Revised criteria:
>>
>> Required:
>>
>>    1. No confusion with another protocol, major software project, or
>>    IETF/IRTF WG name
>>    2. no existing registered trademarks in related classes
>>    3. Less than 1M results in Google
>>    4. Descriptive of protocol (this criteria is subjective)
>>
>> Desirable:
>>
>>    1. Straightforward to pronounce
>>    2. Easy to spell
>>    3. Easy to read
>>    4. Shortish
>>
>> 5. Not a negatively connotated word in another language
>>
>> -Daniel
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