Re: [v6ops] Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications - ND proxy for bridging hotspots

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Thu, 25 June 2015 19:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications - ND proxy for bridging hotspots
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Hi,

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:08:14PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> If I want the phone to provide the connectivity to the car, I should be able
> to do that.
> 
> If I want the car to provide connectivity and have the phone use that, I should
> be able to do that.
> 
> I should be able to choose and I should be able to change my decision whenever
> it suits me.

No.

For *you* this might make sense and be a useful feature.  For me, I might
like it, but will never actually use it (because I'm way too lazy to be
interested in multiple possible Internet uplinks for my car - and why I
should bother to trade the nice *external* antenna of the car with the
great reception of a typical smartphone inside a large moving metal box).

For the typical driver who is already challenged pairing his mobile via
BT with his car's handsfree?  No go.  Do one thing, do it well, and NEVER
ask a car owner (or any normal Internet user) about technical decisions.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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