Re: [v6ops] Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications - ND proxy for bridging hotspots

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 25 June 2015 11:28 UTC

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Le 25/06/2015 13:02, Gert Doering a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:54:50AM +0200, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>> This makes either the specs irrelevant or the products on the
>> market non-conformant.
>
> Good morning.  So you finally start seeing the light.
>
> 3G mandated(!) IPv6 over 10 years ago.  Conclusions left as homework
> for the interested reader.

The interested reader should look at the evolution too.  When IPv6/3gpp
was mandated there was no operator offering IPv6 - the only method to
have IPv6 on a cellular link was to tunnel through IPv4.  Then came one
or two operators in northern Europe proposing IPv6 for trials on
cellular.  Today there are several cellular operators offering native
IPv6 to the public, and some trials.  Some even propose IPv6-only (i.e.
no IPv4).

But IPv6 is a large replacement.

DHCPv6-PD is just a simple upgrade to DHCPv6-for-addresses.

That's why I think it would be less than 2 years before we see DHCPv6-PD
at the cellular operator.

Alex

>
> Gert Doering -- NetMaster
>