Re: [v6ops] Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications - ND proxy for bridging hotspots

Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> Thu, 25 June 2015 16:59 UTC

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6/25/2015, 2:28 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson kirjoitti:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>
>> After reading Mikael's email pointing to a 3gpp spec of late 2014
>> mandating DHCPv6-PD to both UE and core network - I must say I am
>> optimistic about the arrival of DHCPv6-PD to cellular network operators.
>>
>> Currently, some cellular networks already offer DHCPv6 together with
>> SLAAC.  Technically that DHCPv6 is extremely simple to upgrade to
>> DHCPv6-PD.
>>
>> My question is when?
>>
>> I can speculate it will be in late 2016.  Because 4G was in specs 2
>> years before trial deployments.
>
> To repeat myself:
>
> DHCPv6-PD requirement didn't appear in 2014.
>
> http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/123400_123499/123401/10.03.00_60/ts_123401v100300p.pdf
> from 2011-MARCH contains prefix delegation, and since it's not available
> in release 9, it seems this is indeed a LTE release 10 feature that is
> more than 4 years old, and still there isn't widespread implementation
> of it that I am aware of.

Yes, we put PD into Rel-10 around mid/late 2010. The CRs to 23.060 and 
23.401 that then added prefix exclusion (RFC6603) were in Nov 2010.

- Jouni

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