Re: [v6ops] Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications - ND proxy for bridging hotspots

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Wed, 24 June 2015 15:10 UTC

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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Apple and IPv6, a few clarifications - ND proxy for bridging hotspots
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Hi,

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 04:12:19PM +0200, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
> I looked at the file. It does proxy Neighbor Discovery in order to
> bridge. Proxy ND is an EXPERIMENTAL RFC4389. 64share is an
> INFORMATIONAL RFC7278. This means they are not the perfect way to aim
> for interoperability. An Apple smartphone could not talk to a GM car
> (just examples of brand names).

Crap.  The devices on either sides will not see which method the device
in the middle deploys to achieve reachability.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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