Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda
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在 2011-10-31,上午10:39, Joel jaeggli 写道: > On 10/30/11 18:50 , Fred Baker wrote: >> >> On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote: >> >>> On 10/30/11 03:32 , 孟少卿 wrote: >>>> Hi all I also support draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt to >>>> be adopted as a WG document in V6ops. A special block of IPv4 >>>> address mapping for the non-directly translatable IPv6 address >>>> will helpful for us to troubleshoot. We have deployed the >>>> stateless translator for about two years in the campus networks. >>> >>> What addresses do you presentialy use a the source address for >>> icmp messages sent from the stateless translator? >> >> My understanding is that he doesn't - the message is dropped. The net >> effect in a traceroute (IPv4) is to see something that looks like a >> routing loop or a black hole on the far side (IPv6) of the >> translator. He'd like something that shows that distance is >> progressing and it's a state number of hops beyond the translator. >> It's not all the information one would like to see, but it's more and >> better than "* * *". > > Why not use a gua v4 address bound to the translator > From IPv4 side, We can't identify it's a translator or a regular router if use a IPv4 address bound to the translator. > It might not be asthetically pleasing but it identifies the source > rather well and it's not likely to be filtered. > >> In the reverse direction, traceroute6 from the IPv6 side, the ICMP6 >> message can represent the IPv4 address as ::ipv4 or ::FFFF:ipv4. We >> see that in the wild now. >> >>>> Best Regards Shaoqing Meng Tianjin University Information and >>>> Network Center >>>> >>>> -----邮件原件----- 发件人: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org >>>> [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Xing Li 发送时间: 2011年10月24日 >>>> 18:37 收件 人: V6ops Chairs 抄送: v6ops@ietf.org WG 主题: Re: [v6ops] >>>> Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda >>>> >>>> Hi, Fred and All, >>>> >>>> 于 2011/10/14 5:52, Fred Baker 写道: >>>>> The initial version of the agenda has been posted. It places >>>>> v6ops on Wednesday and Friday mornings, a total of 4.5 hours. >>>>> I personally am satisfied with it, but if folks have issues I >>>>> can pass them along. >>>>> >>>>> I'll note that the deadline for -00 drafts is 24 October, and >>>>> the deadline for updated drafts is a week later. For discussion >>>>> in the working group meetings, I'm looking for a draft posted >>>>> after 25 July, with supporting email discussion on the list. >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking for (and in some cases have seen) commentary on >>>>> each of: >>>>> >>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 13796 Jul 25 23:59 >>>>> draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt >>>> >>>> I would like to request that the V6ops WG adopt >>>> draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt as a WG adoption. >>>> >>>> The draft describes the operational considerations of mapping >>>> ICMPv6 packets through an RFC6145 gateway where the IPv6 address >>>> is not directly translatable into an IPv4 address, and requests >>>> an IANA Special Purpose IPv4 address allocation (192.70.192.0/24) >>>> to allow this address mapping to take place using a >>>> protocol-specific designated address block in IPv4. >>>> >>>> The authors are hopeful that this will not require any valuable >>>> face-to-face WG time at IETF 82 and the WG's consideration of >>>> this document can be undertaken entirely on the mailing list. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> xing >>>> >>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 34974 Sep 14 10:45 >>>>> draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-04.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred >>>>> fred 26625 Sep 27 13:22 >>>>> draft-kuarsingh-v6ops-6to4-provider-managed-tunnel-04.txt >>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 25341 Oct 2 11:39 >>>>> draft-jjmb-v6ops-comcast-ipv6-experiences-02.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 >>>>> fred fred 28127 Oct 6 14:13 >>>>> draft-gashinsky-v6ops-v6nd-problems-00.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred >>>>> fred 45016 Oct 7 12:39 draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-00.txt >>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred fred 8877 Oct 10 09:00 >>>>> draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-discard-prefix-00.txt -rw-rw-r-- 1 fred >>>>> fred 15656 Oct 12 20:38 >>>>> draft-carpenter-v6ops-label-balance-00.txt >>>>> >>>>> plus any new drafts that are posted. >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: IETF Agenda<agenda@ietf.org> Date: October 13, 2011 >>>>>> 2:13:10 PM PDT To: Working Group Chairs<wgchairs@ietf.org> >>>>>> Cc:irsg@irtf.org Subject: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda >>>>>> >>>>>> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing. Please note the >>>>>> cutoff date for requests to reschedule Working Group and BOF >>>>>> meetings is October 17, 2011 17:00 PT. The final agenda will >>>>>> be published on October 21, 2011. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.html >>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.txt >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/82/index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Wanda >>>>>> >>>>>> Only 30 days until Taipei, 82nd IETF! Online registration for >>>>>> the IETF meeting is at: >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing >>>>> list v6ops@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing >>>> list v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ v6ops mailing >>>> list v6ops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >>>> >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda t.petch
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Yu Guanghui
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Xing Li
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Li pengfei
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Zhankao WEN
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda clong_liu
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Warren Kumari
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Warren Kumari
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Warren Kumari
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Qiong
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Xing Li
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Xing Li
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- [v6ops] 答复: Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda 王竹威
- Re: [v6ops] draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address (was… George, Wes
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda buptnoc
- Re: [v6ops] 答复: Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda buptnoc
- [v6ops] 答复: Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda 孟少卿
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda 孟少卿
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda th@imu.edu.cn
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Jiang swall
- Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Yu Guanghui
- Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Yu Guanghui
- Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Joel jaeggli
- [v6ops] 答复: Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda 孟少卿
- Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Yu Guanghui
- Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Yu Guanghui
- [v6ops] 答复: Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Justin Chen
- [v6ops] 答复: Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda Justin Chen