Re: [v6ops] 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda

[Joel jaeggli <[e-mail]>]

On 10/30/11 20:00 , Yu Guanghui wrote:
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> 在 2011-10-31，上午10:39， Joel jaeggli 写道：
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>> On 10/30/11 18:50 , Fred Baker wrote:
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>>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
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>>>> On 10/30/11 03:32 , 孟少卿 wrote:
>>>>> Hi all I also support draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt  to
>>>>> be adopted as a WG document in V6ops. A special block of IPv4
>>>>> address mapping for  the non-directly translatable IPv6 address
>>>>> will  helpful for us to troubleshoot. We have deployed the
>>>>> stateless translator for about two years in the campus networks.
>>>>
>>>> What addresses do you presentialy use a the source address for
>>>> icmp messages sent from the stateless translator?
>>>
>>> My understanding is that he doesn't - the message is dropped. The net
>>> effect in a traceroute (IPv4) is to see something that looks like a
>>> routing loop or a black hole on the far side (IPv6) of the
>>> translator. He'd like something that shows that distance is
>>> progressing and it's a state number of hops beyond the translator.
>>> It's not all the information one would like to see, but it's more and
>>> better than "* * *".
>>
>> Why not use a gua v4 address bound to the translator
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> From IPv4 side, We can't identify it's a translator or a regular router if use a IPv4 address bound to the translator.

it is a router...

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>> It might not be asthetically pleasing but it identifies the source
>> rather well and it's not likely to be filtered.
>>
>>> In the reverse direction, traceroute6 from the IPv6 side, the ICMP6
>>> message can represent the IPv4 address as ::ipv4 or ::FFFF:ipv4. We
>>> see that in the wild now.
>>>
>>>>> Best Regards Shaoqing Meng Tianjin University Information and
>>>>> Network Center
>>>>>
>>>>> -----邮件原件----- 发件人: [e-mail] 
>>>>> [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Xing Li 发送时间: 2011年10月24日
>>>>> 18:37 收件 人: V6ops Chairs 抄送: [e-mail] WG 主题: Re: [v6ops]
>>>>> Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Fred and All,
>>>>>
>>>>> 于 2011/10/14 5:52, Fred Baker 写道:
>>>>>> The initial version of the agenda has been posted. It places
>>>>>> v6ops on Wednesday and Friday mornings, a total of 4.5 hours.
>>>>>> I personally am satisfied with it, but if folks have issues I
>>>>>> can pass them along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll note that the deadline for -00 drafts is 24 October, and
>>>>>> the deadline for updated drafts is a week later. For discussion
>>>>>> in the working group meetings, I'm looking for a draft posted
>>>>>> after 25 July, with supporting email discussion on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking for (and in some cases have seen) commentary on
>>>>>> each of:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  13796 Jul 25 23:59 
>>>>>> draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to request that the V6ops WG adopt 
>>>>> draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt as a WG adoption.
>>>>>
>>>>> The draft describes the operational considerations of mapping
>>>>> ICMPv6 packets through an RFC6145 gateway where the IPv6 address
>>>>> is not directly translatable into an IPv4 address, and requests
>>>>> an IANA Special Purpose IPv4 address allocation (192.70.192.0/24)
>>>>> to allow this address mapping to take place using a
>>>>> protocol-specific designated address block in IPv4.
>>>>>
>>>>> The authors are hopeful that this will not require any valuable 
>>>>> face-to-face WG time at IETF 82 and the WG's consideration of
>>>>> this document can be undertaken entirely on the mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> xing
>>>>>
>>>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  34974 Sep 14 10:45 
>>>>>> draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-04.txt -rw-rw-r--  1 fred
>>>>>> fred 26625 Sep 27 13:22 
>>>>>> draft-kuarsingh-v6ops-6to4-provider-managed-tunnel-04.txt 
>>>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  25341 Oct  2 11:39 
>>>>>> draft-jjmb-v6ops-comcast-ipv6-experiences-02.txt -rw-rw-r--  1
>>>>>> fred fred  28127 Oct  6 14:13 
>>>>>> draft-gashinsky-v6ops-v6nd-problems-00.txt -rw-rw-r--  1 fred
>>>>>> fred 45016 Oct  7 12:39 draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-00.txt
>>>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   8877 Oct 10 09:00 
>>>>>> draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-discard-prefix-00.txt -rw-rw-r--  1 fred 
>>>>>> fred  15656 Oct 12 20:38 
>>>>>> draft-carpenter-v6ops-label-balance-00.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> plus any new drafts that are posted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: IETF Agenda<[e-mail]> Date: October 13, 2011
>>>>>>> 2:13:10 PM PDT To: Working Group Chairs<[e-mail]> 
>>>>>>> Cc:[e-mail] Subject: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing.  Please note the
>>>>>>> cutoff date for requests to reschedule Working Group and BOF
>>>>>>> meetings is October 17, 2011 17:00 PT.  The final agenda will
>>>>>>> be published on October 21, 2011.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.html 
>>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/82/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Wanda
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only 30 days until Taipei, 82nd IETF! Online registration for
>>>>>>> the IETF meeting is at:
>>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html
>>>>>>>
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