Re: [v6ops] Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda

[Joel jaeggli <[e-mail]>]

On 10/30/11 18:50 , Fred Baker wrote:
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
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>> On 10/30/11 03:32 , 孟少卿 wrote:
>>> Hi all I also support draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt  to
>>> be adopted as a WG document in V6ops. A special block of IPv4
>>> address mapping for  the non-directly translatable IPv6 address
>>> will  helpful for us to troubleshoot. We have deployed the
>>> stateless translator for about two years in the campus networks.
>> 
>> What addresses do you presentialy use a the source address for
>> icmp messages sent from the stateless translator?
> 
> My understanding is that he doesn't - the message is dropped. The net
> effect in a traceroute (IPv4) is to see something that looks like a
> routing loop or a black hole on the far side (IPv6) of the
> translator. He'd like something that shows that distance is
> progressing and it's a state number of hops beyond the translator.
> It's not all the information one would like to see, but it's more and
> better than "* * *".

Why not use a gua v4 address bound to the translator

It might not be asthetically pleasing but it identifies the source
rather well and it's not likely to be filtered.

> In the reverse direction, traceroute6 from the IPv6 side, the ICMP6
> message can represent the IPv4 address as ::ipv4 or ::FFFF:ipv4. We
> see that in the wild now.
> 
>>> Best Regards Shaoqing Meng Tianjin University Information and
>>> Network Center
>>> 
>>> -----邮件原件----- 发件人: [e-mail] 
>>> [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Xing Li 发送时间: 2011年10月24日
>>> 18:37 收件 人: V6ops Chairs 抄送: [e-mail] WG 主题: Re: [v6ops]
>>> Fwd: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda
>>> 
>>> Hi, Fred and All,
>>> 
>>> 于 2011/10/14 5:52, Fred Baker 写道:
>>>> The initial version of the agenda has been posted. It places
>>>> v6ops on Wednesday and Friday mornings, a total of 4.5 hours.
>>>> I personally am satisfied with it, but if folks have issues I
>>>> can pass them along.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll note that the deadline for -00 drafts is 24 October, and
>>>> the deadline for updated drafts is a week later. For discussion
>>>> in the working group meetings, I'm looking for a draft posted
>>>> after 25 July, with supporting email discussion on the list.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm looking for (and in some cases have seen) commentary on
>>>> each of:
>>>> 
>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  13796 Jul 25 23:59 
>>>> draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt
>>> 
>>> I would like to request that the V6ops WG adopt 
>>> draft-xli-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-00.txt as a WG adoption.
>>> 
>>> The draft describes the operational considerations of mapping
>>> ICMPv6 packets through an RFC6145 gateway where the IPv6 address
>>> is not directly translatable into an IPv4 address, and requests
>>> an IANA Special Purpose IPv4 address allocation (192.70.192.0/24)
>>> to allow this address mapping to take place using a
>>> protocol-specific designated address block in IPv4.
>>> 
>>> The authors are hopeful that this will not require any valuable 
>>> face-to-face WG time at IETF 82 and the WG's consideration of
>>> this document can be undertaken entirely on the mailing list.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> xing
>>> 
>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  34974 Sep 14 10:45 
>>>> draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-04.txt -rw-rw-r--  1 fred
>>>> fred 26625 Sep 27 13:22 
>>>> draft-kuarsingh-v6ops-6to4-provider-managed-tunnel-04.txt 
>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  25341 Oct  2 11:39 
>>>> draft-jjmb-v6ops-comcast-ipv6-experiences-02.txt -rw-rw-r--  1
>>>> fred fred  28127 Oct  6 14:13 
>>>> draft-gashinsky-v6ops-v6nd-problems-00.txt -rw-rw-r--  1 fred
>>>> fred 45016 Oct  7 12:39 draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-00.txt
>>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   8877 Oct 10 09:00 
>>>> draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-discard-prefix-00.txt -rw-rw-r--  1 fred 
>>>> fred  15656 Oct 12 20:38 
>>>> draft-carpenter-v6ops-label-balance-00.txt
>>>> 
>>>> plus any new drafts that are posted.
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: IETF Agenda<[e-mail]> Date: October 13, 2011
>>>>> 2:13:10 PM PDT To: Working Group Chairs<[e-mail]> 
>>>>> Cc:[e-mail] Subject: 82nd IETF DRAFT Agenda
>>>>> 
>>>>> The DRAFT agenda is ready for viewing.  Please note the
>>>>> cutoff date for requests to reschedule Working Group and BOF
>>>>> meetings is October 17, 2011 17:00 PT.  The final agenda will
>>>>> be published on October 21, 2011.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.html 
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.txt
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/82/index.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Wanda
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only 30 days until Taipei, 82nd IETF! Online registration for
>>>>> the IETF meeting is at:
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/register.html
>>>>> 
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