Re: [xml2rfc-dev] [Ext] RFC 7991 issue #37: Schema Issue, RFC 7991, In Section 2.12, <br>

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Thu, 04 October 2018 14:52 UTC

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From: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc-dev] [Ext] RFC 7991 issue #37: Schema Issue, RFC 7991, In Section 2.12, <br>
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On Oct 4, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2018-10-04 16:25, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>> On Oct 3, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>>>> Because putting a <br> in running text prevents you from being able
>>>> to search for the whole phrase. This was one of the explicit reasons
>>>> to prevent them everywhere, and titles and section names are
>>>> particularly important examples. You might search for a title of "of
>>>> Generating Datagrams" but would never think of searching for "of
>>>> Generating<br>Datagrams" or even . "of Generating <br>Datagrams"
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry, but I think this is incorrect.  In rendered context, whether
>>> text/plain, text/html, or application/pdf, this would not be an issue --
>>> the search tools would not see any <br> (in text and pdf because it
>>> would not be part of the text; in html, because html search tools already
>>> disregard html's <br>).
>>> 
>>> In the context of an editor, working on the xml, a phrase search is just
>>> as likely to fail because the text has been broken across a line, and
>>> contains multi-space indentation, which again would prevent an in-editor
>>> phrase search.  This is a reality I live with every day ,:-)
>> 
>> Neither of those is what I was referring to: I was referring to searching the corpus of RFCs or Internet Drafts.
> 
> Using which search tool?

grep for now, hopefully something more formal later when the corpus has more XML.

--Paul Hoffman