Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-15
Mathieu Goessens <mathieu.goessens@irisa.fr> Thu, 03 March 2011 19:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-15
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On 17/02/2011 16:57, Carsten Bormann wrote: > We now start the Working Group Last Call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-15 > Hi folks, Got two remarks about the actual draft: - a first remark about the lifetime in AROs - a second about the behavior on wake up section. = About the lifetime in AROs = I don't see anything on the draft to enforce on the router's side that ARO.lifetime <= prefix.lifetime ; The host is not expected to use a greater lifetime. However in some cases the actual valid lifetime may have changed since the last RA received from the router, especially when the host renews the registration of an address (the draft does not mandate to send a RS in this case). The router is not mandated to check that the lifetime of the registered address fits within the valid lifetime of the prefix. Can a router refuse a registration with a too long lifetime or decrease the lifetime in the returned ARO (just like in DHCPv6) ? I think we should plan a mechanism that allow a router to decrease a lifetime requested by a host in a ARO. I would suggest the following mechanism: When a router receive a NS with an ARO, it can reply with an ARO containing a lower lifetime and the host must honor this lifetime. I would suggest the following changes: == Section 5.5.2. Processing a Neighbor Advertisement == > If the status field is zero, then the address registration was > successful. The host saves the Registration Lifetime from the > Address Registration option for use to trigger a new NS > well before the lifetime expires. If the Status field is not equal > to zero, the address registration has failed. Becomes: " If the status field is zero, then the address registration was successful. As the routeur may have decreased the lifetime of the address, the host MUST use the Registration Lifetime returned by the router in the Address Registration option received in the NS for use to trigger a new NS well before the lifetime expires. If the Status field is not equal to zero, the address registration has failed. " == Section 6.5. Processing a Neighbor Solicitation == > In addition to the normal validation of a Neighbor Solicitation and > its options, the Address Registration option is verified as follows > (if present). If the Length field is not two, or if the Status field > is not zero, then the Neighbor Solicitation is silently ignored. Becomes: " In addition to the normal validation of a Neighbor Solicitation and its options, the Address Registration option is verified as follows (if present). If the Length field is not two, or if the Status field is not zero, then the Neighbor Solicitation is silently ignored. If the requested lifetime is greater than the prefix lifetime, the router MUST decrease it in order to fit within the prefix lifetime. This change MUST be done before updating the Neighbor Cache Entry and sending subsequent DAR or NA message. " == Section 6.5.3. Updating the Neighbor Cache == > The Registration Lifetime and the EUI-64 are recorded in the > Neighbor Cache entry. A unicast Neighbor Advertisement (NA) is then > sent in response to the NS. This NA SHOULD include a copy of the > ARO, with the Status field set to zero. A TLLA option is not > required in the NA, since the host already knows the router's > link-layer address from Router Advertisements. Becomes: " The Registration Lifetime and the EUI-64 are recorded in the Neighbor Cache entry. A unicast Neighbor Advertisement (NA) is then sent in response to the NS. This NA SHOULD include a copy of the ARO, with the Status field set to zero. If the router had to decrease the lifetime of the address, then the ARO option MUST be included to report the decreased lifetime to the host. " Please also note that it may be interesting to make similar changes in DAC/DAR and to update section 5.8.1. (Picking up an appropriate registration lifetime) = About the behaviour on wake up section (5.8.2): = I think this sentence > When a host wakes up from a sleep period it SHOULD maintain its > current address registrations that will timeout before the next > wakeup. needs some clarifications. Even if it's implicit, it doesn't stress enough that a node must maintain its addresses before switching to sleep mode in order to be able to retrieve it at wake up time. One may consider it just have to do so when a node wakes up. I propose the following sentence that seems more clear to me : " When a host plans to switch to sleep mode, it SHOULD maintain its current address registrations to ensure that they will not timeout before the next wakeup. " Also, i am not sure how to interpret the sentence: > The > host may also need to refresh its prefix and context information by > sending a new unicast Router Solicitation Does it mean that it is left to the implementation to decide wether a host refresh its information or not ? Best Regards, -- Mathieu Goessens, IRISA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes cedex, France Tel: +33 (0) 2 99 84 71 00, Fax: +33 (0) 2 99 84 71 71
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: DAD requirement seems too strict Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multicast… Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: Battery host support seems to b… Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: Purpose of SLLA slightly unclear Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] 6lowPAN HC in context of draft-thubert-… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Colin O'Flynn
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: DAD requirement seems too s… Colin O'Flynn
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: DAD requirement seems too s… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Battery host support seems … Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Dijk, Esko
- [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Mathieu Goessens
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Noriyuki SATO
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related to "A… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Jonathan Hui
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Noriyuki SATO
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Erik Nordmark