[6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related to "Advertize on Behalf")
"Anders Brandt" <abr@sdesigns.dk> Wed, 30 March 2011 06:06 UTC
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From: Anders Brandt <abr@sdesigns.dk>
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Subject: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related to "Advertize on Behalf")
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OK, so now I can send this "Advertize on Behalf" flag. As mentioned yesterday, there is a distinction between Frequently Listening (a.k.a duty cycled nodes) and what I call call-back nodes, i.e. nodes that depend on a router holding a mailbox for that node. Whether that mailbox feature is provided by any router, a few specialiezed routers or the border router is a network implementation decision. But how is that information conveyed to the sleeping node? In the RA? By asking the default router with some new message? Whereever this mailbox feature is offered in the network, this is where I will be sending my "Advertize on Behalf" flag if I am a call-back node. Forgive me if this is obvious. I think I am getting close to a "detail overload" ;-) Thanks, Anders ________________________________ Fra: 6lowpan-bounces@ietf.org på vegne af Mukul Goyal Sendt: ti 29-03-2011 18:47 Til: Carsten Bormann Cc: 6lowpan Emne: Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Hi Carsten >Hosts don't take part in routing protocols I agree absolutely. >The only source of information about reachability and network configuration a host has is ND (and DHCP for some of the latter, if present). I agree. That's why I think 6lowpan ND should provide a mechanism to clearly identify a registered neighbor as a 6lowpan host or a 6lowpan router. Thanks Mukul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carsten Bormann" <cabo@tzi.org> To: "Esko Dijk" <esko.dijk@philips.com> Cc: "Erik Nordmark" <nordmark@acm.org>, "Mukul Goyal" <mukul@uwm.edu>, "6lowpan" <6lowpan@ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:14:34 AM Subject: Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO On Mar 29, 2011, at 14:55, Dijk, Esko wrote: > RPL reachability is indeed advertised to both 6LR/6LNs, the only distinction is that a 6LN (host) would operate as a RPL leaf node Hosts don't take part in routing protocols, so I don't understand this sequence. The only source of information about reachability and network configuration a host has is ND (and DHCP for some of the latter, if present). Gruesse, Carsten _______________________________________________ 6lowpan mailing list 6lowpan@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: DAD requirement seems too strict Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multicast… Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: Battery host support seems to b… Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] -nd-15: Purpose of SLLA slightly unclear Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] 6lowPAN HC in context of draft-thubert-… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Colin O'Flynn
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: DAD requirement seems too s… Colin O'Flynn
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: DAD requirement seems too s… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Battery host support seems … Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Dijk, Esko
- [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Mathieu Goessens
- Re: [6lowpan] Working Group Last call for draft-i… Noriyuki SATO
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Mukul Goyal
- Re: [6lowpan] -nd-15: Joining the all-nodes multi… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Anders Brandt
- [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related to "A… Anders Brandt
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Jonathan Hui
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] How to find the mailbox? (related t… Noriyuki SATO
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Erik Nordmark
- Re: [6lowpan] "Advertize on Behalf" flag in ARO Erik Nordmark