Re: [87attendees] eduroam (Re: IETF wireless)

[Stefan Winter <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

> I have access to eduroam, but almost always use ietf ssid. Eduroam
> periodically asks for login and password, ietf connects right away. Many
> academics do not even bother to setup their devices for eduroam
> (sometimes it is tricky for Android or WP, do not remember which device
> exactly caused me trouble).

Android < 4.3 and Windows Phone have broken / highly deficient EAP
supplicants on board. There is little we can do about that (except for
lobbying).

Android 4.3 made *significant* leaps towards a good EAP supplicant;
likely becaue of the many complaints of eduroam users, just google for
it. WP8 improved its situation, but it's still far from perfect.
Luckily, Windows Phone is - and likely continues to be - a niche product.

> But it is cool to have eduroam (especcially
> when there are no alternative open networks).

Open networks expose your data payload to everyone. Sure, they won't ask
you for a username/password, and you could consider that an upside if
you don't care about security.

BTW, yesterday we had 1 million national roaming, and 100.000
international roaming logins; and it's semester break period. That's
IMHO a pretty nice figure for a 24h period and I dare challenge your
"many academics don't bother".

Stefan

> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrey Lukyanenko.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Carsten Bormann <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> 
>     On Aug 8, 2013, at 08:35, Stefan Winter <[e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> 
>     > The IETF also provides eduroam
> 
>     And tons of kudos go to whoever started this.
>     (Finally, a feature where the IETF is providing *better* service to
>     the academics than to everyone else...)
> 
>     Grüße, Carsten
> 
>     PS.: The eduroam number also provide a nice estimate of the number
>     of academics attending.
>     Of course, there may be a couple people who laboriously configure
>     the WiFi for IETF before noticing they already had been connected,
>     and there may still be a few academics coming from
>     eduroam-challenged institutions.  But overall, this is a nice indicator.
> 
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