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Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 16 July 2019 19:37 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:37:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:28 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> Aside from that seemingly obvious conflict, it doesn't seem like DNS-based
>> solutions would really work very well for these benevolent applications.
>> It's sort of like using a coffee cup as an umbrella--it will catch some
>> rain, yes.
>>
>
> I'm not sure how relevant this is, but you seem to be assuming that people
> are actively trying to evade these controls.
>

Well, they are, but your point about voluntary participation is different.


> Obviously that's true in some cases, but if I point my DNS to Quad9, it's
> because I *want* them to do malware and phishing detection [0], and so I
> have no interest in evading that. I'm not aware of any inherent reason to
> believe that would be ineffective.
>

Yeah, I think the question is whether a user would /also/ want that task to
be unencrypted. That doesn't make much sense to me.

thanks,
Rob

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