Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00

Alec Muffett <alec.muffett@gmail.com> Tue, 16 July 2019 11:26 UTC

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From: Alec Muffett <alec.muffett@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:26:36 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2019, 11:31 Dixon, Hugh, <Hugh.Dixon@sky.uk> wrote:

> Hi Alec –
>

Hi Hugh!

Given that this is at its core (just) a protocol for asking (any) DNS
> server whether it has a filtering policy, won’t “non-compliant software”
> will be the sort of software which does not beacon?
>

That's kinda the whole point; the problem is that innocent people might try
using Firefox to access Twitter from Turkey during a civil rights
crackdown, their Firefox-implementing-this-mechanism will give them away as
trying to evade Government blocking of Twitter, and they will end up
arrested or worse.

Not everyone is in a position to welcome or appreciate upstream DNS
filtering "for their own good" - for instance, this example from Turkey:

https://www.mic.com/articles/85987/turkish-protesters-are-spray-painting-8-8-8-8-and-8-8-4-4-on-walls-here-s-what-it-means

It would seem regressive of Mozilla's principles to assist someone getting
identified & thrown in jail for non-compliance with repressive blocking;
not to mention - to repeat - the other obvious possibility is that any IP
address which beacons-out a lookup of TBD.arpa will immediately be
blackholed / firewalled, again to dissuade people from fact-checking their
government's spokespeople.

Or, perhaps you would consider this non-compliant-behaviour, worthy of such
sanction?

- alec