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Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Wed, 17 July 2019 21:42 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:42:05 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 2:35 PM Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=
40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Yes, and this is why I was actually defending the spirit of the draft
> against claims that it would just facilitate downgrade attacks.
>

Isn't that exactly what it does? It turns off DoH over clear text, and thus
doesn't comply with BCP 61 or BCP 188.

thanks,
Rob

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