Re: [Add] draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Mon, 15 July 2019 00:37 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:37:42 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Add] draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:36 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:

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> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:33 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:31 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
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>>>> Let's add some domains to the draft that switch HTTPS to HTTP, and
>>>> switch SSH to telnet.
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>>> This sort of rhetoric doesn't seem particularly helpful.
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>> What's the difference?
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> I believe I answered this question in my previous response
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Hmm, maybe we could encrypt them using Dual_EC_DRBG.

thanks,
Rob