Re: [Add] [Ext] Mozilla's DoH resolver policy

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Thu, 11 April 2019 20:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Add] [Ext] Mozilla's DoH resolver policy
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On 4/11/19 3:34 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>> If Firefox is to be taken mainly as a real-life example on this
>>> mailing-list, is there a suitable Firefox-specific place to discuss
>>> related issues?
>> The Networking:DNS component is the one to watch:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=Core&component=Networking%3A%20DNS&bug_status=__open__&list_id=14662850
>>
>> We don't (yet) have a discussion list for "Firefox Doing DNS".
>>
>>> (Assuming Mozilla is actually interested in that.)
>> Feedback is always welcome. :-)
> Do you mean "feedback on the ADD list" or "feeback in the Bugzilla tracker" or both?
>
> --Paul Hoffman


I think we'd like to prevent the "Applications Doing DNS" list from 
becoming just the "Mozilla Doing DNS" list. To the extent that you'd 
like to engage with a broader slice of Mozilla than just those of us who 
participate in the IETF, I'd encourage you to take Mozilla-specific 
concerns to the mailing lists I pointed to earlier.

You can also comment on bugs in the component that Peter points to, but 
there's a pretty strict policy of "no advocacy in bugs," so you may find 
the mailing lists more satisfying.

This is probably as good a place as any to point to the code of conduct 
for these mailing lists: 
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/participation/

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