Re: [Add] [Ext] Mozilla's DoH resolver policy

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Thu, 11 April 2019 20:40 UTC

Return-Path: <stpeter@mozilla.com>
X-Original-To: add@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: add@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352D812031C for <add@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=mozilla.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7jYRqWS5n3cW for <add@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:40:22 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-io1-xd2d.google.com (mail-io1-xd2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED563120310 for <add@ietf.org>; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-io1-xd2d.google.com with SMTP id n11so6600131ioh.1 for <add@ietf.org>; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mozilla.com; s=google; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dk7TRgVS28KAL+lmlQjl9N/is0M3kZJ5g/gWshtRkG8=; b=Gqe5Dlm3IqT0Nx69n2CjqUpenAT8R+cCSrPnQv2WK9VxzySLkpCZdpuoS0Q0RB6W8Z 1II7WOQEhUmg8outlQPISC+3Js9I78IB2gJMrEb4VyBXllYXMOtJSgg0M0bdqe+mJJed E8xiIissUhuwCtB15KiTUOfmaMhxxWUhhpN74=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dk7TRgVS28KAL+lmlQjl9N/is0M3kZJ5g/gWshtRkG8=; b=jHT+S9agSSsLU4rJZJksIFOwyFF3sDfkGvlYPopp9I9OAGw4vgLERfxPI+5hfvkbQW gUJLg20i4bxwuxKfCmCfN+qAClKGgZHlpnauga1GfVNguH9fY0m/Y1iW0yWj8EsaADTX J9PtMNyCQqmK6Jacwrzvx+lE2KrGVEtkRy4mWyWrWf/mTD+vBn7x2lETxeOFWIs+AlPj DqgfwiZqMr3uOhqOTEmFSp2LFo3ifnWEKr8W2CPfNoaiwrMem2UWp0mYEC0n28emi0O/ q1gsmnbWo9MuMDAEiXZ01Xq86a2/rSRt5ucrt8zxcIqA9GvLjmmx4PcHt83tARS9yEFI DX7Q==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUh3FfaEtHjriPLxveNikvY4P7XVYNb1e45q0/TWxphpvbnK5wg BUn4AXo4JUoBezjqPsS/uZieRO3T6yc=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwu67tHaeMa2ykniCQvTiKjOe4nEDjRrwPJ7BoqbXD8l1Kzys3mL8Bc2DUXr60AwWXAcNumMg==
X-Received: by 2002:a6b:5a03:: with SMTP id o3mr2084600iob.9.1555015221242; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from dragon.local ([76.25.3.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t23sm14818838ioj.19.2019.04.11.13.40.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:40:20 -0700 (PDT)
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>
Cc: "add@ietf.org" <add@ietf.org>
References: <297C80CE-F017-4F4A-80E2-79941E8B9E02@icann.org> <b64761dc-dfab-e4e1-4bfb-82d607efa590@riseup.net> <alpine.LRH.2.21.1904101324530.9940@bofh.nohats.ca> <64aeff58-6d68-4c4f-b991-2b2f62d193a0@www.fastmail.com> <90A5C5C4-373C-4B39-80C2-C115CD23CB4D@fl1ger.de> <CACQYfiJa1i2LVgQDcHi_OknmDDKZiaw=++Y6imn34LcPULP3bQ@mail.gmail.com> <E0CA1520-74D4-4A41-9B44-10946FAB4534@fl1ger.de> <CACQYfiKeh=FgmB9RN=eJ-2tq4jyTg55fep4au9SeGe3U5VkMBQ@mail.gmail.com> <ED802588-CD5D-4F80-914D-CA25EE234424@fl1ger.de> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1904111144200.31156@tvnag.unkk.fr> <792D4346-DE43-4BFC-85D4-FC58366E38B5@fl1ger.de> <945967b1-581f-e603-49f1-b9f173decb39@nic.cz> <6c11589f-fb00-e15d-9c16-a22368351c50@mozilla.com> <1A4EBCEB-4779-4407-90D5-D1733E0BB9F8@icann.org>
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
Openpgp: preference=signencrypt
Autocrypt: addr=stpeter@mozilla.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFonEf4BEADvZ+RGsJoOyZaw2rKedB9pBb2nNXVGgymNS9+FAL/9SsfcrKaGYSiWEz7P Lvc97hWH3LACFAHvnzoktv+4IWHjItvhdi9kUQ3Gcbahe55OcdZuSXXH3w5cHF0rKz9aYRpN jENqXM5dA8x4zIymJraqYvHlFsuuPB8rcRIV9SKsvcy14w9iRqu770NjXfE/aIsyRwwmTPiU FQ0fOSDPA/x2DLjed/GYHem90C5vF4Er9InMqH5KAMLnjIYZ9DbPx5c5EME4zW/d648HOvPB bm+roZs4JTHBhjlrTtzDDpMcxHq1e8YPvSdDLPvgFXDcTD4+ztkdO5rvDkbc61QFcLlidU8H 3KBiOVMA/5Rgl4lcWZzGfJBnwvSrKVPsxzpuCYDg01Y/7TH4AuVkv5Na6jKymJegjxEuJUNw CBzAhxOb0H9dXROkvxnRdYS9f0slcNDBrq/9h9dIBOqLhoIvhu+Bhz6L/NP5VunQWsEleGaO 3gxGh9PP/LMyjweDjPz74+7pbyOW0b5VnIDFcvCTJKP0sBJjRU/uqmQ25ckozuYrml0kqVGp EfxhSKVqCFoAS4Q7ux99yT4re2X1kmlHh3xntzmOaRpcZsS8mJEnVyhJZBMOhqE280m80ZbS CYghd2K0EIuRbexd+lfdjZ+t8ROMMdW5L51CJVigF0anyYTcAwARAQABtCdQZXRlciBTYWlu dC1BbmRyZSA8c3RwZXRlckBtb3ppbGxhLmNvbT6JAlQEEwEIAD4WIQQ1VSPTuPTvyWCdvvRl YYwYf2gUqQUCWicR/gIbIwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRBlYYwY f2gUqdaREAChG8qU1853mP0sv2Mersns8TLG1ztgoKHvMXFlMUpNz6Oi6CjjaMNFhP7eUY4T D43+yQs7f4qCkOAPWuuqO8FbNWQ+yUoVkqF8NUrrVkZUlZ1VZBMQHNlaEwwu1CGoHsLoRohP SiZ0hpmGTWB3V6cDDK4KN6nl610WJbzE9LeKY1AxtePdJi2KM281U0Fz8ntij1jWu0gF2xU4 Sez46JDogHLWKgd0srauhcCVzZjAhiWrXp1+ryzSWYaZO8Kh8SnF1f4o6jtYikMqkxUaI5nX wvD3kNX4AMSkCAZfG7Jcfj/SLDojTcREgO87g7B9bcOOsHN4lj3lHoFV0aXpgPmjfIvAjJHu fHkXZAQAH8w0u9bgJqRn703+A4NPfLopnjegyhlNi7fQ3cMQV1H7Oj7WrB/pCcprx+1u/6Uq oTtDwWh1U5uVthVAI0QojpNWR08zABDX19TlGtVoeygaQV3CAEolxTiYQtCfVavUzUplCZ/t 3v4YiRov+NylflJd+1akyOs1IAgARf444BnoH1fotkpfXNOpp9wUXXwsQcFRdP7vpMkSCkc0 sxPNTVX3ei0QImp4NsrFdaep7LV3zEb3wkAp6KE5Qno4hVVEypULbvB0G6twNZbeRfcs2Rjp jnPb2fofvg2WhAKB20dnRfIfK8OKTD/P+JDcauJANjmekLkCDQRaJxH+ARAApPwkbOTChAQu jMvteb/xcwuL5JZElmLxIqvJhqybV7JknM+3ATyN0CTYQFvPTgIrhpk4zSn0A6pEePdK8mKK 5/aHyd7pr7rLEi1sI/X3UE8ld/E83MExksKrYbs0UX1wSQwYXU6g64KicnuP2Abqg+8wrQ18 1nPcZci9jJI75XVPnTdUpZD5aaQWGp7IJ06NTbiOk30I50ORfulgKoe4m3UfsMALFxIx3pJk oy76xC2tjxYGf+4Uq1M0iK3Wy655GrcwXq/5ieODNUcAZzvK5hsUVRodBq0Lq3g1ivQF4ba7 RQayDzlW6XgoeU49xnCr9XdZYnTnj4iaPmr2NtY6AacBwRz+bJsyugeSyGgHsnVGyUSMk8YN wZHvUykMjH21LLzIUX5NFlcumLUXDOECELCJwewui4W81sI5Sq/WDJet+iJwwylUX22TSulG VwDS+j66TLZpk1hEwPanGLwFBSosafqSNBMDVWegKWvZZVyoNHIaaQbrTIoAwuAGvdVncSQz ttC6KkaFlAtlZt3+eUFWlMUOQ9jxQKTWymyliWKrx+S6O1cr4hwVRbg7RQkpfA8E2Loa13oO vRSQy/M2YBRZzRecTKY6nslJo6FWTftpGO7cNcvbmQ6I++5cBG1B1eNy2RFGJUzGh1vlYo51 pdfSg0U1oPHBPCHNvPYCJ7UAEQEAAYkCPAQYAQgAJhYhBDVVI9O49O/JYJ2+9GVhjBh/aBSp BQJaJxH+AhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEGVhjBh/aBSpAw0P/1tEcEaZUO1uLenNtqysi3mQ6qAHYALR Df3p2z/RBKRVx0DJlzDfDvJ2R/GRwoo+vyCviecuG2RNKmJbf1vSm/QTtbQMUjwut9mx6KCY CyKwniqdhaMBmjCfV2DB2MxxZLYMtDfx/2mY7vzAci7AkjC+RkSUByMEOkyscUydKC/ETdf9 tvI8GhTY/8Q7JSylS3lQA5pMUHiIf+KpSmqKZeBPkGc7nSKM1w1UKUvFAsyyVsiG6A/hWrTr 7tTQAl7YfjtOGE8n4IKGktvrT99bbh9wdWKZ5FdHUN9hx2Q8VP8+0lR1CH2laVFbEwCOv1vM W4cgQDLxwwpo1iOTdHBVtQDxlQ9hPMKVlB1KP9KjchxuiLc24wLmCjP3pDMml4LQxOYB34Eq cgPZ3uHvJZG309sb2wTMTWaXobWNI++ZrsRD5GTmuzF3kkx3krtrq6HI5NSaemxK6MTDTjDN Rj/OwTl0yU35eJXuuryB20GFOSUsxiw00I2hMGQ1Cy9L/+IW6Dvotd8O3LmKh2tFArzXaKLx /rZyGNurS/Go5YjHp8wdJOs7Ka2p1U31js24PMWO6hf6hIiY2WRUsnE6xZNhvBTgKOY6u0KT V6hTevFqEw7OAZDCWUoE2Ob2/oHGZCCMW5SLAMgp7eihF0kGf2S2CmpIFYXGb61hAD8SqSY7 Fn7V
Message-ID: <ef524630-78a1-31bc-19f6-004394f4accf@mozilla.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:40:19 -0600
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <1A4EBCEB-4779-4407-90D5-D1733E0BB9F8@icann.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/add/hY5mfXrn88K4vT5sVlReNsw3L-w>
Subject: Re: [Add] [Ext] Mozilla's DoH resolver policy
X-BeenThere: add@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Applications Doing DNS <add.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/add>, <mailto:add-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/add/>
List-Post: <mailto:add@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:add-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/add>, <mailto:add-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:40:24 -0000

On 4/11/19 2:34 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>> If Firefox is to be taken mainly as a real-life example on this
>>> mailing-list, is there a suitable Firefox-specific place to discuss
>>> related issues? 
>>
>> The Networking:DNS component is the one to watch:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=Core&component=Networking%3A%20DNS&bug_status=__open__&list_id=14662850
>>
>> We don't (yet) have a discussion list for "Firefox Doing DNS".
>>
>>> (Assuming Mozilla is actually interested in that.)
>>
>> Feedback is always welcome. :-)
> 
> Do you mean "feedback on the ADD list" or "feeback in the Bugzilla tracker" or both?

Personally I welcome feedback wherever folks feel comfortable providing
it. The discussion lists that Adam Roach mentioned are also appropriate.

Peter