Re: [Apn] Further revised draft Charter

Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Thu, 19 January 2023 13:14 UTC

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 14:14:38 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Apn] Further revised draft Charter
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Hi Feng,

My understanding is that NSH provides such a clean and generic solution. What is missing?

Mirja



> On 19. Jan 2023, at 13:38, Feng Yang <yangfeng@chinamobile.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mirja,
>  
> Thanks for your suggestion.  
>  
> We have associated quite a lot information on the source IP, for example, location/address/user/services(mainly for user who paid will get better bandwidth resource gareentee), etc. Maybe there would be more in future. So I feel to reuse some existing field will create a more “discreted space” , thus even harder to handle.  
>  
> If there is a clean, generic mechanism, that will great simplify the solution and give more possbility on the service we can define.
>  
> BR,
>  
> 杨锋
> Feng Yang
>  
> 发件人: Apn [mailto:apn-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Mirja Kuehlewind
> 发送时间: 2023年1月19日 00:37
> 收件人: Feng Yang
> 抄送: apn@ietf.org <mailto:apn@ietf.org>
> 主题: Re: [Apn] Further revised draft Charter
>  
> Hi Feng,
>  
> Why are not just using the DSCP field or, if you need to provide more information to the network nodes, Network Service Header (NSH) encapsulation?
> 
> 
> Mirja
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> On 18. Jan 2023, at 12:53, Feng Yang <yangfeng@chinamobile.com <mailto:yangfeng@chinamobile.com>> wrote:
>  
> Dear WG,
>  
> In the operator's network, we provide corresponding services for Internet services and bussiness services to meet the needs of a group of users with the same service requirements for the network, such as acceleration, and security for Internet services (e.g. SAVNet), and leased line for bussiness services,(e.g. slicing and service chaining).
>  
> Currently, we are distinguishing services by source IP address at our network edge devices. But the source addresses are discrete, we hope there is a way to transform the address from discrete space into a linear space , which will make it be easier for classification, so that the services and policies can be combined in a simple way. Eventually that can improve our efficiency and reduce costs. 
>  
> This actually solves the fundamental problem that ACLs are difficult to apply at scale, and facilitates us to aggregate services in a linear space and statically configure a number of matching conditions by means of planning.
>  
> I think this Charter clearly presents the work we would like to see, so I suggest it is best not to postpone APN Charter any longer, we should setup the WG first and discuss the actual work as soon as possible.
>  
> The Spring festival is coming on this weekend. Best wishes for everyone. J
>  
> BR,
>  
> 杨锋
> Feng Yang
>  
> 发件人: Apn [mailto:apn-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Donald Eastlake
> 发送时间: 2023年1月18日 10:04
> 收件人: apn@ietf.org <mailto:apn@ietf.org>
> 抄送: apn-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:apn-chairs@ietf.org>
> 主题: [Apn] Further revised draft Charter
>  
> I've gotten some comments and I've re-read some of the AD DISCUSSES and comments. Based on that I've updated the draft Charter as attached.  Comments are welcome. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Donald
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