Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Mailing List
Walter <walter.stanish@gmail.com> Fri, 09 March 2012 05:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Mailing List
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>> This functionality includes: >> * Settlement and reversal / cancellation term negotiation >> * Exchange rate negotiation >> * Latency calculation / negotiation >> * Fee, tax and discount calculation / negotiation >> * Arbitrary currency / asset support >> * Multi-currency / asset transaction support >> * Quotation support >> * Multiple settlement path support >> * Optional support for in-band settlement (sometimes known as DVP) >> * High precision decimal value support >> * Arbitrary financial settlement topology support >> * Arbitrary communications topology support > > Sounds cool. Thank you for your positive comment. > Anyone likely to implement it? The IETF has a well known > preference for running code. (One might wonder if such conflicts with the 'come with a problem rather than a solution' philosophy of the BOFs / mailing list proposals @ http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5434#page-2 ? Then again, one might try to focus on avoiding bureaucratic discussion entirely...) Forward looking statements are always hard to juggle, but at present it does seem that whatever we wind up deciding upon will be implemented by Payward Inc. At least one party with worldwide presence has also expressed a significant and immediate interest - even at this very early stage - in rapid implementation. Whether we move forward independently or on a shared implementation is not yet known. Resulting code may be shared in whole or in part with the wider community as open source, depending upon commercial concerns which are not my domain and I cannot therefore comment on. Secondly, I would note that the complexity that the above feature list suggests should not be taken as a requirement for basic implementation; even integrating exhaustive specifications for all possible considerations of these features in to a document would render it a book. The philosophy to do one thing and do it well demands a minimalist approach; as per established protocols extensions for precise cases (under various legal jurisdictions, when accessing certain financial markets or networks, etc.) would presumably be described separately. Individual implementations would be free to leave out support for most or all extensions, advertise the subset that they support when handshaking, then interact appropriately. Easier said than done, but I believe an achievable goal. In closing, perhaps you could assist with teething issues faced by mere newcomers such as myself by flexing your apparent dummy series authorship credentials on a humorous RFC for April; "The IETF for Dummies"? Regards, Walter Stanish Payward, Inc.
- [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Mailin… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… =JeffH
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… John Levine
- [apps-discuss] Running code ... Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… =JeffH
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Jorge Timón
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Jorge Timón
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Jorge Timón
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Carsten Bormann
- [apps-discuss] Payment Protocols -- was Re: Propo… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [apps-discuss] Payment Protocols -- was Re: P… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Payment Protocols -- was Re: P… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)