Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Mailing List
Walter <walter.stanish@gmail.com> Thu, 08 March 2012 00:47 UTC
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> Apps-Discuss folks: It's been about a week since Walter posted this, > and no one's commented. Perhaps that means that no one's interested, > but I'd like to stir the pot a bit and see whether anyone has anything > to say. Nudge-nudge, stir-stir. For the record I have received a private response from a member of the Energy WG. > Walter, what we're looking for here is some public discussion that > results in at least some reasonable level of understanding about what > would be discussed on the mailing list you propose, Is it really necessary to have people already participating in this mailing list express interest in order to justify a new list on a specific subject? Whilst I can understand the tradition, this does seem like a bit of a paradox to me: surely interested parties are to be drawn to such a mailing list from related corners of the wider internet community? > who might be > interested in participating Addressed in the original email, I believe. > and, importantly, what IETF work might come out of it. Being new to IETF processes in general, I can shed no light on this. Certainly the establishment of some IANA registries. > I'll note that standardization doesn't only happen in > the IETF; there other standards organizations with different foci, and > industry consortia often form to develop special-purpose standards for > limited industry subgroups. What you want here might not be a bunch > of Internet gearheads who worry about SMTP, HTTP, SIP, MPLS, and BGP, > but, rather, some techies involved in the finance industry who can > better develop something that really meets the need you have. I am well aware of the protocol authoring focus. Financial industry groups are not the right forum for this development as they are top-heavy with a massive, indisputable interest in maintaining the status quo. Scope-wise: Whilst we are looking at higher level protocols (hence 'application area'), we can't simply take the de-facto choice and build on HTTP or TCP because they don't meet the multipoint requirements of many financial messaging systems. (In addition, the transaction-orientation of HTTP is too limiting for many such communities who presently use exotic mixes of custom out of band stream replay solutions to resolve intermittent loss on their high bandwidth, sequence-numbered financial information streams) There are a wide range of message queue systems that are in commercial use or open source development that may serve to elegantly resolve transport layer requirements, though mandating an exotic transport layer would be self-defeating. Therefore, the current view is toward transport neutrality. Regards, Walter Stanish Payward, Inc.
- [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Mailin… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Ted Hardie
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… =JeffH
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… John Levine
- [apps-discuss] Running code ... Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… =JeffH
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Jorge Timón
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Jorge Timón
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Jorge Timón
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Proposal for a Finance Area Ma… Carsten Bormann
- [apps-discuss] Payment Protocols -- was Re: Propo… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [apps-discuss] Payment Protocols -- was Re: P… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Payment Protocols -- was Re: P… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)