Re: [Asrg] Re: RMX Records

Hadmut Danisch <hadmut@danisch.de> Tue, 04 March 2003 20:25 UTC

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From: Hadmut Danisch <hadmut@danisch.de>
To: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org>
Cc: asrg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Asrg] Re: RMX Records
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:24:10 +0100

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:00:27PM +0000, Adam Back wrote:
> > Second is, under german - and I believe under european - law 
> > ISPs are required to state their customers identity. I guess
> > the same will come in the USA after 9/11. It will become
> > more and more difficult to have anonymous access to the internet.
> 
> And this is a bad thing for end-users.  
> 
> Your approach to slowing spam is to punish end-users by stripping them
> of privacy, and the convenience of trial-offer CDs from ISPs.


That's not my approach. That's my observation and guess.






> So how will anyonymous users who want anonymity for privacy send mail
> in this world.

Please specify what exactly you're talking about. Are you talking 
about pseudonyms, forged addresses, remailers or what?

- Being anonymous can't mean to be able to forge/adopt a foreign
  E-mail address or abuse a foreign domain. I do respect your
  wish to communicate anonymously, but I don't accept that you 
  can pretend to be ...@danisch.de to do so.

- You're still free to use an anonymous remailer/pseudonym server. 
  If mail comes from that server it will be something like
  12345@anonymousmail.com  It's my decision to accept this or not.

- Your right to send anonymous e-mails doesn't include my 
  duty to accept it and to make my infrastructure available for 
  this on my expense.

  Your right to use anonymous communication corresponds with 
  my right to decide whether I want to participate or not.

  And I do not want to receive anonymous e-mail, at least not to 
  my normal e-mail address. 

  Freedom of anonymous communication is nice, but it can't be 
  a matter of the initiator only. The callee must agree to 
  participate in anonymous communication.


- You're still free to buy a 10$ domain  foobardomain.org and 
  to have a 0/0 RMX record, thus allowing anyone on the world
  to use ...@foobardomain.org . Maybe lots of MTAs will accept such
  mail. My one wouldn't.



regards
Hadmut
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