Re: [Banana] Charter Text w/Milestones
Margaret Cullen <margaretw42@gmail.com> Mon, 24 April 2017 07:48 UTC
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:48:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Banana] Charter Text w/Milestones
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HI Hannu, > On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:09 AM, Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo) <hannu.flinck@nokia-bell-labs.com> wrote: > > It talks about "BANANA boxes" which is a bit old fashioned and if taken too strictly limits the solution space to “boxes” of some sort. A more accurate and up-to-date term would be BANANA functions as you may then support virtualized functions that can be located more flexibly e.g. in a host device, or an enterprise could etc. It is the explicit intention that “BANANA Boxes” may be separate hardware components or software components running on CPE, an end system, etc. I will see if i can improve the wording to make this clearer. We struggled with the right word to use for something that can be a hardware or software component with either proxy-like or tunnel-endpoint-like properties — a word that wouldn’t constrain the solution selection. I am not familiar with the use of the term “functions” as you describe it, so it doesn’t immediately seem clearer to me. Does it to others? > > Especially the configuration and control protocol part of the charter I find very much needed and an area where we could provide input and help. Excellent. This is likely to be the meat of any effort. The “encapsulations” are expected to use existing protocols like GRE, MPTCP, etc. Thanks, Margaret
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- Re: [Banana] Charter Text w/Milestones Margaret Cullen
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