Re: [Banana] Charter

mrcullen42@gmail.com Wed, 13 September 2017 13:27 UTC

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Hi Wim,

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> If I hear GRE as a proposal it is very NAT unfriendly and the solution need to work across multiple providers, so this is an important consideration.

Sorry, I somehow dropped this thread while I was in vacation...

Why do you think that (all) GRE-based proposal(s) would be NAT unfriendly?  

Margaret