Re: [dmarc-ietf] Give up on SPF alone

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Sat, 15 April 2023 22:22 UTC

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From: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Give up on SPF alone
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On 4/15/2023 11:27 AM, Douglas Foster wrote:
> Sorry Hector, but you are wrong on the theory and off topic.   DMARC 
> and SPF authenticate different things.  DMARC is designed to 
> override SPF Fail to handle the case of forwarding without SRS, 
> which would be optimal if all messages were signed.

SPF is ignorant of DMARC both literally and technically.  DMARC 
depends on SPF and it may never get a chance to be tested.  That's the 
reality.  Sorry.

> Bandwidth optimization was an issue when we were on dial-up, but now 
> we size capacity to need, and use other defenses for DDoS attacks 
> that saturate bandwidth.

Who is we?  Anyhow. Not applicable.

> Discarding DMARC is not feasible, because you cannot revoke an RFC 
> and you cannot make people stop knowing what they already know

Way over my head.

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Hector Santos,
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