Re: [dmarc-ietf] Signaling MLMs

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Mon, 17 April 2023 01:45 UTC

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From: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Signaling MLMs
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On 4/15/2023 6:53 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> I only know a handful of mailing lists, and they all do From: 
> rewriting.  Some took years to adapt, but eventually adapted.  Are 
> there any who don't?

Since 1996, wcListServer.

> I agree lists may also refuse participation and require posters to 
> get gmail addresses.
>
> In the case of IETF lists, copyright issues are addressed by the 
> Note Well.  I see no violation in From: rewriting.

Since the dawn of messaging, there was much power in From authorship - 
its a taboo to destroy it.  What you write is copyrighted.  It's 
yours.  Yes. The copyright is not lost with the IETF rewrite.

> Until then, there is some disruption.  We know it.  We can document 
> it; we're not ignoring it.  We thought hard about it and concluded 
> that it necessarily arises.  To timidly roll back doesn't seem to be 
> a feasible option.  Making laws that cannot be followed, implying 
> that every body is implicitly guilty, is an oldish governmental 
> practice which sounds just silly when enacted by someone who does 
> not even have a protocol police.

Agree.  The MLS/MLM will need to adjust.  Restricting 
subscription/submissions (honoring the protocol) is the easiest first 
step. Imto, this is the correct technical way but it comes with 
disruption.  This disruption MAY be acceptable to the domain but not 
the user.

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Hector Santos,
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-- 
Hector Santos,
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