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Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Fri, 09 June 2023 17:42 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] WGLC : draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing
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> I'm hearing a bit of support for the proposal of changing the WG charter, 
> but
> more support for not changing the charter and issuing the protocol as
> experimental. There have been no proposals for specific metrics for how to
> judge the experiment, so it is likely to be "two years, add some operational
> observations, and move it to standards track".

[SAH] We might be disagreeing on the nature of experimentation, but I most 
definitely provided examples of specific, measurable metrics that could be 
used to evaluate an experiment:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dns-privacy/tA7Wo_cllWhWqjwaQTs50Ses-KI/

WRT observations, we do have a WG wiki we could use:

https://wiki.ietf.org/group/dprive

Scott

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