Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 07 May 2023 04:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]
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It appears that Dr Eberhard W Lisse  <el@lisse.NA> said:
>The IANA Function Operator does so for all ccTLDs (which would imply all TLDs).

Indeed, but some of them are lame anyway.  Here's today's report:

FAIL ne. bow.rain.fr. 194.51.3.49 All nameservers failed to answer the query ne. IN SOA: Server 194.51.3.49 UDP port 53 answered REFUSED
FAIL ne. ns-ne.afrinic.net. 2001:43f8:120:0:0:0:0:45 All nameservers failed to answer the query ne. IN SOA: Server 2001:43f8:120:0:0:0:0:45 UDP port 53 answered REFUSED
FAIL pg. ns1.tiare.net.pg. 202.165.192.23 All nameservers failed to answer the query pg. IN SOA: Server 202.165.192.23 UDP port 53 answered SERVFAIL
FAIL ss. b.ns.tznic.or.tz. 196.216.162.70 All nameservers failed to answer the query ss. IN SOA: Server 196.216.162.70 UDP port 53 answered SERVFAIL
FAIL tg. ns1.admin.net. 198.73.186.1 All nameservers failed to answer the query tg. IN SOA: Server 198.73.186.1 UDP port 53 answered SERVFAIL
FAIL ye. ns1.yemen.net.ye. 65.162.184.33 All nameservers failed to answer the query ye. IN SOA: Server 65.162.184.33 UDP port 53 answered SERVFAIL
FAIL ye. ns2.yemen.net.ye. 65.162.184.34 All nameservers failed to answer the query ye. IN SOA: Server 65.162.184.34 UDP port 53 answered SERVFAIL

There are 96 more that timed out but I can't tell whether they really aren't there or it's a temporary network issue.

R's,
John