Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition

[Paul Vixie <[e-mail]>]

Joe Abley wrote on 2023-05-01 14:15:> Yes -- some people (not me) would 
evidently describe a server that they
> didn't receive a response from as lame. Such a situation could be a 
> result of a bad configuration but also any number of other things, such 
> as a network problem or a misconfigured firewall.

because the problem could be a middlebox on your end (edns botchery), a 
fiber cut, ddos protection on the far end, or other non-dns prime cause, 
nothing about unreachability or silence nec'ily has to do with the server.

to be a lame _delegation_ means some error or misconfiguration in the 
server. normally this means it's supposed to be authoritative but the 
zone expired or the operator forgot or similar. or there is no server 
there any more (it was decomm'd or renumbered). icmp host-unreach or 
port-unreach would be symptoms of that, if you can hear them.

if we need more terms let's invent. but this term has established meaning.

-- 
P Vixie