Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus" recall petitions

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 27 October 2019 19:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus" recall petitions
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Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> wrote:
    > Anyone (remote attendee, random person off the street, etc) can put their
    > name on a recall petition by writing a check for $250USD (prorated for the
    > average annual income of their country of citizenship), and supplying that
    > with a redacted copy of their passport page or appropriate identity card.   
    > If the recall petition is upheld and the person removed, they get their money
    > back.  If not, the IETF drops the money in the IETF endowment. They have to
    > sign an affidavit that the money is their personal money and they have not
    > been and will not be reimbursed by any third party including their employer
    > if any.

I see your point, and the like the refundable nature.

Let me propose a silly alternative that might cost more than $250 (in time):
     They have to submit their recall petition in the form
     of an XMLv3 I-D with their signature in SVG.

{okay, it's scriptable in the end}

If 3/5 remote registrations isn't right, then I'd go some different criteria.
Like having submitted an I-D to the DT at least 3 times in the past 20 months.
Or make it a WG document.
Or maybe it's enough to have had a DT login for at least 24 months, which has
been active at least 4 times yearly.

There are lots and lots of criteria we could come up with.

The question to Richard is really: is there some criteria which he could
imagine which would prove "skin in the game" for a remote participant which
he has never met?   If the answer is yes, then we are just negotiating for
the criteria.
   cf: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/07/haggling/

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