Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus" recall petitions
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Fri, 25 October 2019 11:25 UTC
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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 04:24:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus" recall petitions
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Hi Brian, At 07:55 PM 24-10-2019, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >Personally I'm more worried about that than the risk of gaming or DOSsing >the system. Now while it's true that a non-attendee might have frequently >met the recallee at (say) ITU-T meetings, it's still probably the best proxy >we've got for "very limited personal knowledge". Assuming, of course, that >we think such personal knowledge is needed. The Ombudsteam can decide that a person is no longer permitted to participate in IETF activities. Given that the Ombusteam can make such a decision, should there be a requirement that the Ombusteam have personal knowledge of the person? I looked up 7776 and I could not find such a requirement. If there is a significant risk that the system can be bring the IETF to a halt, it means that the system is not well designed. As Adrian pointed out in an email, it is possible to make a timely change to the system if there is an evidence that it is being misused. It may be possible to add a clause to curtail misused. However, that increases the complexity of the system. It also opens the door to creating a system which might not work when it is actually needed. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "bogus… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… John C Klensin
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… S Moonesamy
- Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Handling the fear of "b… Michael Richardson